For those in the military who Serve their Country HONOURABLY in uniform, this is the sort of bureaucratic garbage with which they have to contend! Note the arrogance in the statement “to avoid further queries!” Which idiot in the government created this problem? A CANFORGEN msg just came out to clarify and end the saga of the CF Dependants born outside Canada. To avoid further queries here is a copy of the msg: Subject: 211718Z FEB 05 - CITIZENSHIP OF CF DEPENDANTS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA - CFG 037/05 01 01 211718Z FEB 05 RR RR UUUU ADM(HR-MIL)015 NDHQ OTTAWA//ADM HR-MIL// CANFORGEN UNCLAS CANFORGEN 037/05 ADM(HR-MIL)015 SIC WAK BILINGUAL MESSAGE / MESSAGE BILINGUE SUBJ: CITIZENSHIP OF CF DEPENDANTS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA REFS: A. CIC CITIZENSHIP POLICY MANUAL 1O PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP B. PASSPORT OFFICE WEBSITE WWW.PPT.GC.CA C. CITIZENSHIP ACT SECTION 8 D. CFAO 26-9 CHILDREN BORN OUTSIDE CANADA - CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP 1. THE INTENT OF THIS MSG IS TO CLARIFY THE CITIZENSHIP STATUS OF CF DEPENDANTS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA 2. BACKGROUND A. PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. FORMER LEGISLATION (DESCRIBED AT REF A) REQUIRED THAT CDN CHILDREN BORN OUTSIDE CANADA BETWEEN 1 JAN 47 AND 14 FEB 77 BE REGISTERED AS CDN CITIZENS WITHIN TWO YRS OF BIRTH AND BE ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD. SINCE 15 FEB 77, CANADA’S CERTIFICATE OF CITIZENSHIP HAS BEEN THE ONLY PROOF OF CDN CITIZENSHIP ISSUED FOR CDN CHILDREN BORN OUTSIDE CANADA B.SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBER (SIN) APPLICATION. THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT CANADA (SDC, FORMERLY HRDC) REQUIRES PROOF OF IDENTITY, NOT PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, TO PROCESS AN APPLICATION FOR A SIN. IN OCT 02, FOR SECURITY REASONS, SDC ELIMINATED 20 DOCS FROM THE LIST OF THOSE ACCEPTED AS PROOF OF IDENTITY, INCL THE FORMERLY ACCEPTED CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD. THEREFORE, FOR CDNS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA, THE CERTIFICATE OF CITIZENSHIP BECAME THE ONLY PROOF OF IDENTITY DOC ACCEPTED FOR SIN APPLICATIONS. THIS CHANGE APPLIES ONLY TO THE SIN APPLICATION PROCESS. THE ELIMINATION OF THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD DOC AS PROOF OF IDENTITY FOR SIN APPLICATIONS SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED TO MEAN THAT THE CITIZENSHIP OF PERS BORN TO CDN PARENTS STATIONED OUTSIDE CANADA IS IN QUESTION 3. CURRENT SITUATION: WE UNDERSTAND THAT SDC NOW ACKNOWLEDGES THE VALIDITY OF THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD DOC AS PROOF OF IDENTITY FOR SIN APPLICATIONS AND WILL REINSTATE IT ASAP. IN ADDITION, WE UNDERSTAND THAT CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION CANADA (CIC) CONSIDERS THIS DOC TO BE PROOF OF CDN CITIZENSHIP 4. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS: A. PASSPORT APPLICATIONS. IAW REF B. ADULTS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA CAN SUBMIT ANY ONE OF FOUR DIFFERENT DOCS AS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, INCLUDING THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD ISSUED TO CDNS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA BEFORE 15 FEB 77. CDN CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 16 WHO WERE BORN OUTSIDE CANADA WILL HAVE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF CITIZENSHIP (PARA 2A REFERS) WHICH IS THE ONLY DOC ACCEPTED FOR THEIR PASSPORT APPLICATIONS. CONSULT REF B FOR MORE INFO B. RETENTION OF CITIZENSHIP. WHILE THE CITIZENSHIP OF CF DEPENDANTS BORN OVERSEAS IS NOT REPEAT NOT IN DOUBT, REF C REVEALS THAT SOME CDN CITIZENS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA TO A PARENT ALSO BORN OUTSIDE CANADA MAY HAVE TO APPLY TO RETAIN THEIR CDN CITIZENSHIP BEFORE THEIR 28TH BIRTHDAY. THOSE WHO MAY BE AFFECTED ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO COMPLETE THE WORKSHEET PROVIDED ON THE CIC WEBSITE AT: www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/retention-worksheet.html C. DND 419. A CF DEPENDANT BORN OUTSIDE CANADA BETWEEN 1963 AND NOV 79 MAY HAVE BEEN ISSUED A NATIONAL DEFENCE CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH (DND 419). THE DND 419 IS NOT RECOGNIZED AS PROOF OF BIRTH AND IS NOT CONSIDERED PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. HOWEVER, PERS IN POSSESSION OF DND 419 WERE REGISTERED AS CDN CITIZENS IAW. THE PROCESS DESCRIBED IN PARA 2A. ON REQUEST, CIC WILL CONDUCT A SEARCH OF RECORDS TO VERIFY CITIZENSHIP REGISTRATION D. WHILE CIC AND THE PASSPORT OFFICE (AND SOON SDC) ACCEPT THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION OF BIRTH ABROAD DOC, PERS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA COULD ENCOUNTER OTHER SITUATIONS WHEREBY AN ORGANIZATION REFUSES TO ACCEPT THIS DOC AS PROOF OF BIRTH OR IDENTITY. IN SUCH A CIRCUMSTANCE, PERS MAY BE REQR TO APPLY TO THE COUNTRY OF BIRTH FOR A BIRTH REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE OR EXTRACT OF THAT DOC AS SECONDARY PROOF OF BIRTH 5. AS THE CERTIFICATE OF CDN CITIZENSHIP IS THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE PROOF OF BOTH IDENTITY AND CITIZENSHIP FOR CDNS BORN OUTSIDE CANADA, AFFECTED PERS MAY WISH TO ACQUIRE THIS DOCUMENTATION FOR THEMSELVES OR THEIR CHILDREN AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE TO AVOID FUTURE INCONVENIENCE. CIC SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE DEFINITIVE SOURCE OF INFO ON CDN CITIZENSHIP. CIC CALL CENTRE CAN BE REACHED AT 1-888-242-2100 OR CONSULT CIC WEBSITE AT: www.cic.gc.ca . REF D IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW TO REFLECT THE INFO PROVIDED ABOVE MichelATC 35 Pl Michel Morency <Ottawa, On Canada - Tuesday, February 22, 2005 at 08:33:24 (EST) | 
